Comments on: Illegal Immigrants, Loyalty, Morality http://joshuamalbin.com/2009/09/illegal-immigrants-loyalty-morality/ Mon, 23 Jan 2012 03:26:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hum-De-Hum - Joshua Malbin http://joshuamalbin.com/2009/09/illegal-immigrants-loyalty-morality/comment-page-1/#comment-281 Hum-De-Hum - Joshua Malbin Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:01:00 +0000 http://joshuamalbin.com/?p=430#comment-281 [...] by Joshua Malbin on Sep.22, 2009, under Politics Vaguely argued prediction. [...] [...] by Joshua Malbin on Sep.22, 2009, under Politics Vaguely argued prediction. [...]

]]> By: Josh K-sky http://joshuamalbin.com/2009/09/illegal-immigrants-loyalty-morality/comment-page-1/#comment-218 Josh K-sky Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:07:20 +0000 http://joshuamalbin.com/?p=430#comment-218 And I don't think that's ably represented in Haidt's system, though it has elements of ingroup/loyalty and elements of reciprocity and fairness. And I don’t think that’s ably represented in Haidt’s system, though it has elements of ingroup/loyalty and elements of reciprocity and fairness.

]]> By: Joshua Malbin http://joshuamalbin.com/2009/09/illegal-immigrants-loyalty-morality/comment-page-1/#comment-216 Joshua Malbin Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:56:12 +0000 http://joshuamalbin.com/?p=430#comment-216 But then it's universal and not really about an ingroup, no? It's about care for another person on the basis of common humanity. But then it’s universal and not really about an ingroup, no? It’s about care for another person on the basis of common humanity.

]]> By: Josh K-sky http://joshuamalbin.com/2009/09/illegal-immigrants-loyalty-morality/comment-page-1/#comment-213 Josh K-sky Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:22:36 +0000 http://joshuamalbin.com/?p=430#comment-213 First off, I'm not sure that we're that far apart on the ingroup/loyalty module -- my problem with Haidt's discussion is that he presents it strictly as an atavistic tribalism, and I think his system does not account for solidarity as a group-crossing appeal. Brother- and sister-hood. The feeling of commonality with sick people who happen to have been born in Mexico, a feeling that trumps the status of their paperwork and the color of their skin. Second off, I think Haidt is less annoying than reality on the count of liberal appeals to patriotism. First off, I’m not sure that we’re that far apart on the ingroup/loyalty module — my problem with Haidt’s discussion is that he presents it strictly as an atavistic tribalism, and I think his system does not account for solidarity as a group-crossing appeal. Brother- and sister-hood. The feeling of commonality with sick people who happen to have been born in Mexico, a feeling that trumps the status of their paperwork and the color of their skin.

Second off, I think Haidt is less annoying than reality on the count of liberal appeals to patriotism.

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